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Monday, April 02, 2007

Based on my many previous posts on the illogicality's of a gay guy wanting to be part of the conservative side of politics, a news paper is reporting that David from Big Brother has had his political ambitions quashed again.

Personally I do not understand in the slightest how you can be gay and want to support a right wing Conservative faction of politics.

It's not suprisingly that a party as conservative and homophobic as the Australian National Party would not block an openly gay man's desire to gain a larger role in politics. Let's get this right shall we?

The National Party camopaigned against qualising the age of consent for same sex guys and girls, they are opposed to anti-homophobia campaigns in schools, are opposed to same sex relationships.

David, if you want to get into politics try the democrats or the labour party



At Tue Apr 03, 07:00:00 AM EST, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now come on Drew, it is possible to support the right wing agenda and be gay at the same time. Take the New Zealand example where both major political parties have openly gay members democratically elected and both have a selection of policies that avoid minority descrimination. Conservative politics are not automatically anti-gay and gay people are not automatically left wing. We are politically as evenly distrbuted as any other voting lobby group.

At Tue Apr 03, 07:14:00 AM EST, Blogger Superdrewby said...

Yes you can have views and beliefs that cross both sides of politics,

but why do you choose to remain anonymous and post the comment? Are you embaressed by your comments, or do you not feel that you can stand up and own your conservatism and argue for your beliefs?

I personally believe that in Australia (and I have no experience with the NZ Political movement) if you belong and align yourself with the conservative side of politics you are supporting a party which actively campaigns against the equalisation of same sex relationships, allows religous groups to actively discriminiate against minorities, to fight against any form of normalisation of same sex attraction.

The argument 'work within' does not work when it's social policies which have no other basis than wedge politicing and cause enormous harm to people.

So Anonymous be a man, next time you post tell us your name and your email or profile!

At Tue Apr 03, 09:01:00 AM EST, Blogger tom said...

Not embarrased, simply too lazy to set up a blogg account, so here you go, anoymous no longer!
I must admit, I had no idea conservatism in Australia had the implications it does. I somewhat naievly imagined that being aligned to the right meant right wing economic policy without wholesale attack on the equalisation of same sex relations. But then we have the right to legally recognised same sex unions in NZ under the Cival Union Act which both the right and left wing endorsed.
You are well justified in Your vehmance, if I were an Australian national I would share it, but surly not all Australian right wing political movements are so descriminatory... are they?
Many thanks for your invitation to become a man, but I believe I accepted that invitation some time ago. Keep up the blogging, always a most enjoyable read.

At Tue Apr 03, 09:14:00 AM EST, Blogger Superdrewby said...

Hi Tom, and thanks for coming out of the blogoshpere closet so to speak LOL

True many "conservative" thinkers are also gay, but on the main the political machines themselevs in the right of politics in Australia are venemently anti gay. You are right though, it will not always be the case.

I do remind myself that the extreme right wing anti-gay memebsr fo society are a minority and as acceptance and equality becomes the norm it will be more intellectualy stimulating to hold "conservative economic views"

Mind you I was under the impression that in NZ the Exclusive Bretheren did help the conservatives behind the scenes, just as in Australia the Exclusive Bretheren have assisted the conservative government for whic they have been given tacit approaval.

Unfortunatley whilst conservative politics is infiltrated by gay hating hoimophobes I will stand fromt he top of my soap box and denounce them.

In answre are all the right discriminatrory twards minorities, no, just like on the left or middle their are bigots too. BUT it's the sum of the individuals in government and not the individuals themselves.

At Tue Apr 03, 09:26:00 AM EST, Blogger Craig said...

Don't you think it is time for some wholesale changes to the way our government is run?

The two party system is not working - you have politicians and their parties who are not accountable for the decisions they make - you vote them out if you don't like what they have done (or not... as we have just witnessed last weekend) you vote the other bastards in... and then they stuff up, so you vote the bastards back in that you got rid of the previous time around... and around and around the circle it goes...

Where's the choice?

I think we would be far better off having the Liberals run economic and infrastructure policy, labor running social and environmental policy and having the Democrats watching over them with a very big whacking stick. Clover can be Queen!

I have to confess to being a swinging voter... I don't like any of the parties irrespective of their gay policies. Labor make a lot of noise about standing for gay rights, but where is the legislation enacted at a state level after 12 years of a labor gov't here?

They talk the talk but don't walk the walk.


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